State government stops compensation to displaced Telanganites of Pranahita-Chevella project
Looks like the state government, under the influence of Seemandhra leaders, is not letting any chance to humiliate or suppress the common man of Telangana. Despite being denied every legitimate right of Telangana people to get their fare share of water from rivers no major irrigation projects completed in the region.
Adding insult to the injury, the Rosaiah government has arbitrarily stopped payment of the compensation for the people whose land has been acquired and they been displaced by the Pranahita-Chevella project. The government claims that it has very less resources as of now to spare for the various projects in Andhra Pradesh and the recent refusal by the Union Government to declare the project a national one has only added to its woes.
All the construction work on the project and also the payment of the compensation has come to a ground halt. “This is evident that Rosaiah government is not paying the compensation just because the people who would receive the money are from Telangana”. said a displaced Telanganite of the Pranahita-Chevella project.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 24, 2010 @ 16:23:12
What else a Telanganite can expect from this sadist SA dominated govt. we even have to raise our voice for the 'right' of the poor people again get tagged by our opponents as 'we r cynical' and 'maoists' and lot more. How shameless and cruel and inhumane this govt. is not paying the dues?
ravinder
Mar 24, 2010 @ 16:47:47
@ Syed, The irony is the SA people want compensation for the SA ppl who died drinking Hooch, while the same ppl want to deny the compensation for the ppl who are loosing their lands in the project, still our freinds of SA in this forum are asking trivial questions ,about the injustices being done on the Telanganites, do get real ppl. even knowing how blatently the power is being misused, if you ( SA advocates ) guys still feel stongly about the De-merger,than only word i can use is,that you ppl are CALLOUS.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 24, 2010 @ 17:32:42
@Khan, I further 'suggest' just to copy u, Manjera water should stop supplying water to hyderbad city, singur and nagarjuna sagar to folow suit, stop supplying water towards andhra region and divert every single drop towards telangana only. Hyderbad should survive with Himayat Sagar and Mir Jumla if needed let Hyderbadis drink from Hussain Sagar. After doing all this we should stop constructing this Pranahita. I thik u agree with me.
khan
Mar 24, 2010 @ 18:29:23
Why should the water to hyderabad be stopped. Pranahitha-chevlla is a lift project and from where do we plan to get electricity. The cost of providing water to one acre is more than what an acre land can produce. Many projects that were planned by YSR are only to benefit the contractors and his family.
gopal
Mar 24, 2010 @ 19:42:37
If the govt stops paying compensation,then ppl are justified in not paying taxes to the govt.They become eligible to agitate against the govt.
@khan,you are right in calling that ysr started projects only on papers and gave benefits to contractors belonging to his coterie.he used to release 100 crores to a project pay 10 crores to the contractors and keep the remaining with him!this was his method!
EHReddy
Mar 25, 2010 @ 12:04:55
Telangana ki jarigna plus jaruguthunna anyayala list lo maroka issue cherindhi anthe.. Only solution for all this problems is 'TELANGANA'.
SRI4TG
Mar 25, 2010 @ 15:22:17
For the formation of AP state,
Andhra came and joined us with empty hands and begging bowls, with no contribution at all, either in the form of capital or infrastuctures. No industries, no electricity, no proper irrigation facilities. They were maintaining their capital at Kurnool in make shift temporary tents.
Telangana / Hyderabad state contributed 10 districts which includes a ready made well infra structured capital city of Hyderabad, which was with surplus budget at that time. We had our own Airport, good Railway stations net work, good road transport, good irrigation facilities, so many ponds, lakes and gardens.
Inspite of this, see how they named the state as "Andhra Pradesh" by ignoring the 350 years culture and sentiments of Telangana / Hyderabad.
This itself is an evidance of Andhra valasa palakula durbuddhi. Right from the first day, they have in their mind to convert Telangana / Hyderabad as their colony.
Telangana / Hyderabad once upon a time was a major part of an independant country called Hyderabad which was ruled by several kings and survived on its own for several centuries.
In 1948 by merging this country into Indian union, its status was brought down from a independent country to a state in India. Within few years, it was again merged with Andhra and now its status is being brought down from a state as a colony for migrants from Andhra.
The native, original Telangana people, once upon a time belongs to a independent country / then a state in India as Hyderabad, are now pushed to a corner and treated as a second class citizens in their own land.
Javed Khan
Mar 25, 2010 @ 17:01:09
Why our T- MP's dont object when SA leaders want Polavaram and Pulichintala to get National project status? Telangana lands get drowned/people r displaced/looted with meagre compensation while SA people benefits a lot from these projects. What a shame? this is the fate of Telangana in A.P.
Our useless T-Leaders like Dayakar rao and others (SA leaders GHULAM) oppose Babli project on behalf of SA because SA will not get water, but never fought for any good irrigation project which benefits Telangana. Projects like Pr-Ch will never gets completed if Telangana still remains in A.P and as long we have Andhra dominated parties Congress and TDP.
Telangana dourbhagyam ee Congress and TDP parteele.
khan
Mar 25, 2010 @ 17:02:49
Pranahitha chevalla is not at all economically viable. The best thing is to dig big ponds and tanks like kakathiyas did for T.
gopal
Mar 26, 2010 @ 16:29:47
Javed khan i empathise with u on your mental agony.the question why our T leaders donot open the mouth is they are not allowed to do so by these SA controlled TDP/CONGRESS.then the fault lies with our intellectuals.but in diluted democracy like ours intellectuals and public at large do not get any attention.if at all there is any agitation by them then they are put in jails etc and tortured and let off with heavy penalities and there ends the matter.Remember YSR instructed his police to "treat " this T agitators at night between 2.00 am and 6 00 and then let them off! The projects in SA are going on full speed with state funds while T projects if any are waiting with central govt for funds etc.it is bcz 95% officials are from one particular region which is virulently against T.
@Khan, your suggestion is not welcome for T bcz in Kakatiyas time itself we had the know-how of building tanks and ponds.examples are Ramappa lake,Laknavaram lake,Ghanpur cheruvu,and osman sagar,Himayat sagar to name a few.This your point less suggestions can go well with polavaram becoz already experts like Mr Hanmanth rao suggested to AP govt to build several medium dams instead of one gigantic like the one now going ahead with full pace.Puli chintala is of course not required at all. Do you know why this pulichinmtala is proposed ?It is to supply water to K delta a month before the agric operation starts only to save the Delta farmer from the Nature's fury in the form of cyclones that visit andhra coast during oct- dec every year.But any one trying to out smart the nature only perishes!!!!!!!!
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 17:17:08
@sr14tg
be happy hyderabad merged into india IN 1948.
if it remained independent you would have been a pakistani and you know how hindus are treated in pakistan.
you are affected by the " grass is always greener on the other side of the fence " syndrome.
raghu
Mar 26, 2010 @ 17:42:14
@Deefeye
That would have been rather better than staying with character less people like SA
And to your knowledge, Nizam and Nehru signed an agreement in 1947 september that Hyderabad would remain an independent country it will not merge with any other coutnry, may be with over enthusiams you are trying to change the histroy, nobody is foolish as you everybody knows the facts
raghu
Mar 26, 2010 @ 17:47:28
@Deefeye
Do you think it was fault with Nehru for accepting the pact with Nizam,
Nehru accepted to allow Hyd as independent country right, how can you foolishly compare us with pakistanis you bloody ……….
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 17:56:58
@raghu
i never compared you with a pakistani.
pls also check your history. nehru and nizam never signed an agreement agreeing hyderabad would remain an independent country.
pls do not distort history and make reckless comments.
by the way i never faulted nehru's pact with nizam.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 26, 2010 @ 18:01:36
@DF, how much it is NOT viable and practically impossible the UT status to Hyderabad city or Hyd as capital for SA and Telangana without Hyderabad city, was the same case with Hyderabad state being a part of Pakistan or independant state / country surrounded by mighty India, so don't make such unnecessary and illogical statements. Write on the logics and practicals pls. Jai Telangana.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 18:21:01
@syed
whether logical or practical or not it is a historical fact that nizam wanted hyderabad to be a part of partitioned india ie pakistan.
this was one of the reasons for police action in 1948.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 18:58:26
i have read several comments in this forum regarding hyderabad and nizams rule.
- hyderabad was the richest state.
- andhra was poorer.
- people of telangana were better off under the nizams rule.
people should realise that the nizam was rich and not hyderabad per se.
though the population of hyderabad was 30% muslim and rest hindus and christians ( minority ) – 80% of govt jobs were with mmuslims.
the conditions for the poor people was very bad.
nizam never wanted to be a part of india and wanted dominion status for hyderabad or to join pakistan.
- swami ramananda tirtha organised a peaceful rally by people of hyderabad wanting to join the indian union , whereas the nizam encouraged the razakars ( armed muslims ) to wage a violent war to support nizam's vision of dominion status or join pakistan.
thousands of people in hyderabad were killed in the razakars movement till the indian army marched in and took over hyderabad.
kazim rizvi the razakar leader was arrested and later he went and settled in pakistan.
the nizam sent rs 20 crores to pakistan and sent his air force planes to pakistan tto be used in case of war with india.
after the police action the nizam complained against india to the UN and later withdrew the complaint.
it is due to india's generosity that the nizam was made raj pramukh of hyderabad till 1956 SRC took effect.
gopal
Mar 26, 2010 @ 19:56:23
DF, alllies and damn lies and nothing else!
Prakash
Mar 26, 2010 @ 19:59:03
Raghu & Syed, let us wait for the reaction of khan (president of Nizam fan club).
khan bhai, where are you when your hero is attacked by your friend?
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 20:07:21
@gopal
you are the worst student of history i have seen.
look up google or wikipedia and read foir yourself.
you entertain this group with your denials and negative comments without ascertaining facts whatsoever.
pls keep it up.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 20:09:43
@prakash
history or truth cannot be denied by anyone whether friends or foe.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 26, 2010 @ 20:14:44
@DF, Pls. correct ur history, Nizam never wanted his state to be merged with Pakistan he wanted to be independent. There is not truth in ur argument bcoz he wanted to join Pakistan, the police action took place. FYI, the base of police action was at the request of the people fighting Nizam under the leadership of some communist groups and the huge sum of money which Nizam donated / gifted to Pakistan as it is a historical fact that the FIRST BUDGET of Pakistan was fully GIVEN by Nizam and the money was used against India by Pakistna in the first war after partition.
Yes, in the rule of Nizam Muslims were in almost 80% of govt. jobs there is no question of doubt in this.
Correct ur history again about razakars, razakar (volunteer) a group of people established well before 1930s who were gathering support of people AGAINST Nizam under the leadership of Bahadur Yarjung who was killed by Nizam using 'Lodha community' of Bhoiguda, one of the Super Heroes of that movement was TURREBAAZ KHAN who was hanged on the cross roads of PUTLIBOWLI just next to today's Osmania Medical College. I can't write more deails in the blog.
When the 'armed resistance' increased by the communist groups then Nizam reached an agreement with Razakars (in late 40s) to counter the resistence in return to accept the demands of Razakars, but when Indian military started operation polo, Nizam surrendered without any consultation with Razakars or their leadership or informing them, that lead the 'killings / cleansing' of Razakars, had Nizam informed the leadership of razakars of the ceasefire he agreed with Indian union the killings would have not taken place, by doing this he took revenge on the leadership and the razakars.
Nizam withdrew his complaint from UN after realising the situation as where his state is (fully surrounded by Indian territory), it was not India's (the then govt. of India) generousity but it was their compulsion to agree for the conditions for merger of Hyderabad state with Indian union as they did with almost every 'princely state' it is compulsion bcoz the then govt. doesn't want to have more and more fronts to fight and wanted to settledown the issues and have one strong boundary for the country.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 20:33:29
@syed
i am shocked at your denial .
pls tell me what will accept as evidence.
wikipedia or any other site.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 26, 2010 @ 20:47:01
@DF, read the reports of Govt. of India on the merger of Hyderbad state and operation polo. BTW, what ur Wikipedia says about Bahadur yarjung and Turrebaaz khan?
Prakash
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:21:01
Syed, let us wait for khan alias raju alias ram alias aman. He knows everything about the former Nizams (possibly due to personal acquaintance with the relevant people & events).
Alas khan will not join this argument due to his own reasons
gopal
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:23:59
Syed bhai,
what wikipedia is this fellow talking about,when we the walking encyclopeadia are still alive as a testimony to our deccan history.outsider like DF only picked up some half cooked/ misrepresented rubbish,from here and there.by the way we are enlightening this chap with historical facts and tomorrow he may use the same to beat some of us in arguments.jara bach ke rehna aise paradeshionse.
gopal
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:34:09
DF well i can understand your mental condition,the amount of mental trauma you and your fellows experiencing at the moment regarding leaving the city of Hyderabad after de-merger.in the light of this fact iam taking your comments lightly.i can understand the plight of ppl like you .Buddy i was the principal of a reputed college where you studied. a small song"paradeshion se na jaban ladana,kyonki,paradeshionko tho ek din jaana" jt jjt.
Prakash
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:35:20
Syed & Gopal, Wikipedia is a "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". It is very popular, especially as a starting point for research but accuracy is suspect. It does however provide sources to some extent.
You may like this joke from Dilbert, the popular business comic strip:
Dilbert (an engineer) is frustrated with the attempts of a co-worker who makes outlandish statements.
Dilbert: what is the source of your infrmation?
Co-worker: Just wait for 15 minutes; you can look it up on Wikipedia
khan
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:38:38
Well, The actions of few people during the armed struggle are the part of law and order protection system.
Can you tell me which government in the world can tolerate an armed conspiracy movement?
Recently Apparao and kondal reddy were killed brutally. This is not Nizam govt but a democratically elected one. What will you say to that.
It is true that Nizam gave money to Pakies. But he gave money to every tom, dick and harry in the world including the British. He even gave money to establish Benaras hindu univeristy. I would also not think he really intend to join Pakistan. He used it only as a ploy in discussions with Nehru. He also did not support Jinna as far as I know.
Unfortunately we donot have sufficient documentation of the history of the events from the perspective of Nizam. It is high time that some kind of alternate study of history take place and history be set right. People like dasarathi rangacharya should also tell us the other side
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 26, 2010 @ 21:53:01
@Prakash & Gopal and others, I don't follow wikipedia or internet for information on the History of India and AP or Hyderbad etc. as believe it or not what I have studied as my syllabus and out of curiosity is my knowledge. My most of the writings r based on my personal knwoledge not today's web based info. as I am not from this new generation to google for everything having said this, I do browse to get more authentic info if avaialble from the old libraries / books or books, old bcoz the history of India if someone starts writing today he will definitely takes the base from some old writers and weaves in his own words. So DF and Khans cannot change the histories by getting bits from wikipedia, BTW, even today the road named after Turrebaaz Khan is there which is located at 'Troop Bazar' from Abids to Kothi. Bahadur Yar Jung was the founder of MIM which worked against the Nizam.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:04:45
@syed
i asked what proof will you accept . wikipedia was just an example.
you beat around the bush always and try to escape by answering questions with questions.
its a historical fact that nizam wanted dominion status and if thats not available he wanted to align with pakistan.
in fact the case where he tried to get back the rs 20 crores he gave to pakistan
is also well known.
even though i have read of Bahadur yarjung and Turrebaaz khan , its is not relevant to my comment.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:06:38
@prakash
in the kingdom of the blind one eyed man is king.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:16:26
@syed
whether you use wiikipedia or any other internet search or knowledge site , or books is immaterial.
what is material is the authenticity of the information.
if i quote from books you will say it is the biased opinion of the author.
so it will always be your word against mine.
still i will get you proof from renowned authors.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:36:17
another fact i forgot to mention is that the rs 20 crores sent to pakistan by the nizam was from the state treasury and not the nizam's personal funds.the money was sent in the form of govt of india bearer bonds which were encashed.
apart from this rs 20 crores an amount of pounds 1,007,940 was transferred from the nizam's bank account in london to the then pakistan high commissioner .
the nizam alleged it was done with out his permission and his request to retransfer the money to his account was not acceded by the bank.
the nizam fought a case for this known as the hyderabad funds case.
the nizam also stationed his air force planes in pakistan to be used against india. mr syed is conveniently silent on this.
this proves his allegiance at that point of time.
its also a well known fact that the razakars were funded by the nizam when he entertained hope of being dominion status. when this was denied and the hindu majority wanted merger with india , the razakars started killing hindus.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:50:47
@syed
since you answer questions with questions.
you aked me about Bahadur yarjung and Turrebaaz khan?.
let me try the same tactic .
pls tell me why was journalist Shoaibullah khan murdered and who murdered him.
deefeye
Mar 26, 2010 @ 22:57:30
@syed
people praise the nizam of hyderabad.
in 1952 the newly formed state of andhra had a revenue of rs 17 crores and an expenditure of 22 crores – a deficit of rs 5 crores.
in 1948 the nizam gave rs 20 crores to pakistan. now whether it is a loan or a grant or money to fight india is another issue.
the amount of rs 20 crores would have met the states expenditure.
why did he give it to pakistan ?
why did he not spend it on his people of hyderabad from whom he had amassed this money as taxes and nazrana.
the poor hindus in the state were a miserable lot during the nizams rule and no one can deny that.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 26, 2010 @ 23:32:14
@DF, in fact u r beating the bush, Turrebaaz Khan and Bahadur Yarjung are not irrelevant as u said, they r relevant as they were fighting against Nizam and got punished the quote is meant to let u know that Razakars were not the creation of Nizam but his opponents. Why he gave money to Pakistan is not a question as his govt. is no more nor he is alive to answer. His airforce to help Pakistan, u expect to reply for word to word dear, I have clearly mentoined he gave money to use against India isn't that enough that he supported Pakistan and opposed India? BTW, DF, don't Hindus it is almost all the common man like today suffered and will continue to suffer, be it Nizam or British or an elected govt. if ur allegation is true that Hindus suffered, can u prove that Muslims were in well position I mean economically? Who was the owner of the land? Who were the Patels and Patwaris and land lords? Dear DF, don't make the debate on community base pls.
Prakash
Mar 26, 2010 @ 23:34:43
Khan chacha, welcome to see you back after the (fortunately temporary) "leave of absence".
Can you please go through deefeye's posts on the Nizam and respond please, thank you.
DFY sahob, I will wait for Khan's response. I will submit my views if he does not. BTW I am not blind nor one eyed.
khan
Mar 27, 2010 @ 00:57:23
DF,
I think we should not see things in hind sight and decide what is right or wrong.
I will give you one example:
The government at Delhi is launching operation green hunt against maoists and they are killing maoists brutally. Can we say this is barbarous act. We cannot because these are part of method to suppress the forces that conspire against the government.
There are communists that were fighting Nizam's forces with arms and what do one expect the king to do. There were few excesses, but when the people wrote the history they have shown Nizam as demon. Which he is not.
For man who is richest in the world, he lived very simple life. His entire life was very secretive.
Coming to Hyd joining in India, It would have been better for Hyd if it had not joined in India. But the country would not have survived as it is land locked by rest of India. But had Hyderabad been kept as a seperate country, Then India would have collapsed long ago with the thrust from both Pakistan and Hyderabad.
khan
Mar 27, 2010 @ 01:06:26
On top of it, whatever Nizam developed in Hyderabad belong to the government of india after the Police action and were given to the government of AP. That is all. Telangana doesnot have any soul right on it.
Sridhar
Mar 27, 2010 @ 02:55:06
Guys why all of you fighting over history. Our problem is formation of AP.
So the problem is from 1956 with Andhras. Whatever we won or lost before that is immaterial to SA.
deefeye
Mar 27, 2010 @ 03:40:49
@syed
you yourself agreed to my earlier statement that muslims who constituted 30 % of the population enjoyed 80% of govt jobs.
" Yes, in the rule of Nizam Muslims were in almost 80% of govt. jobs there is no question of doubt in this."
the nizams and the nobles who constituted a minority of the population owned 40% of the lands in hyderabad state.
the nizams and the nobles were all muslims.
there were patels, patwaris and landlords but they were a minority.
so dont you think it is safe to say the muslims were in a better position than the hindus.
i did not say Turrebaaz Khan and Bahadur Yarjung were irrelevant. i said they were irrelevant to my earlier comment because i did not comment on the entire spectrum of the nizams rule.
the fact here is that the nizam played a double game with the people. he funded and supported the razakars and kazim rizvi the leader of the razakars was the nizams trusted advisor. on the other hand he also condemned the razakars .the nizam was forced to obey the diktats of kazim rizvi fearing the strength of the razakars.
thats why he got an arab general el idroos to lead his army as he feared that kazim rizvi had compromised his army officers and had influence over them.
you still havent answered my question " why was journalist Shoaibullah khan murdered and who murdered him ".
you can take your time to research and answer this question
deefeye
Mar 27, 2010 @ 03:46:21
@prakash
i never said you were blind or one eyed.
my comment " in the kingdom of the blind one eyed man is king " is with reference to the comment that " syed is a walking encyclopedia.
an encyclopedia is a reference tool and few people can claim the knowledge of an encyclopedia.
deefeye
Mar 27, 2010 @ 03:51:06
@gopal
if you think i have mental trauma you shouldnt be responding to my comments.
if you are responding that means your mental trauma is greater than mine.
grow up man. be mature.
jagan
Mar 27, 2010 @ 05:34:27
If champions of today's backwardness in Telangana are to be mentioned then
Nizams will get the first place by all means
Then the fuedal subordinates/landlords will take the second place.
Note the Telagana peasant revolt is a standing evidence to this fact.
So stop doting on the Nizams and their rule; they are double as bad as the Britishers.
They need to fill/overfill their treasary, then fill the treasury of the Britisher and also possible contribute to the forces against India and freedom movement.
If only Nizams were not there then India would have fallen so easily to Briton.
If only Nizams contributed, 1857 revolt would have been more effective.
If only nizams were not there, Tipu would have won.
If only nizams were not there, people of telangana would been more richer, happier and more properous.
This is a known fact in the annals of history, so guys don't betray your heart and mislead others.
So Don't idolize the Nizams. They don't deserve the least of it.
AbdulMuqtadir Syed
Mar 27, 2010 @ 06:34:00
@DF, u must know that the land was in the hands or rather in the names of patels and patwaris or jagirdars of the villages who were not Muslims, (there were very few Muslim patels and patwaris) to support this u may be aware that the patels and patwaris were literally ruling the villages dynastcially. This rule ended during the emergency period when the state govt. abolished WATANDARI and opened the patel and patwari positions for all whoever is qualified for the job. Karanam, Velama and Reddy's were the land owners.
I will give u the whole biography of Shoaibullah in my next post.
jagan
Mar 27, 2010 @ 08:48:24
Hyderabad, not only had its own Army, but also had its own Railways, Airline, Postal Service, Radio Broadcasting network and currency. The Nizam and his court ruled over it with the British Resident keeping a close and watchful eye over everything. The British Army also had a permanent garrison, just in case the “faithful ally of the King Emperor†was found lacking in faith. The Nizam was the first to sign the Subsidiary Alliance with the British and had remained steadfastly loyal to the empire. Even during the Mutiny of 1857, he managed to keep his state free from uprisings.
So that is about the so called Independent country: Hyderabad state.
Prakash
Mar 27, 2010 @ 16:09:52
@jagan March 27th, 2010 at 3:48 am
Nizam was free to do anything he pleased as long as he did not oppose the British occupation of India.
This is similar to that of Bhutan's situation today, where the independant kingdom is "guided" by the India republic on foreign policy.
BTW the "permanent garrison" you mention was headed by low ranking officers of the British army.